Closed Weapon idea "Suicide Vest"

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Rasmarite

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hi all so i was just playing ZE and i'm having a run of bad luck being turned by zms, which is all good fun but in the back of my mind i went "i wish that when i die i can at least try to take some of these zombie sonnova bitches down!"

so i had an idea.

why not have an weapon option for the humans as "Suicide Vest"

but i thought how cool it would be to turn me and then go BOOM and maybe i could get a few extra zms on my kill count.

i know the guys here don't do much coding (at least thats my understanding) but i would love the chance to occassionally go "boom" when i become a zms

given you guys don't do coding and such i took the liberty of snooping around the internet and i have found this


with some tweeks to the weapon option plug in at the start of each mach this could be a possible option.
 

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hi all so i was just playing ZE and i'm having a run of bad luck being turned by zms, which is all good fun but in the back of my mind i went "i wish that when i die i can at least try to take some of these zombie sonnova bitches down!"

so i had an idea.

why not have an weapon option for the humans as "Suicide Vest"

but i thought how cool it would be to turn me and then go BOOM and maybe i could get a few extra zms on my kill count.

i know the guys here don't do much coding (at least thats my understanding) but i would love the chance to occassionally go "boom" when i become a zms

given you guys don't do coding and such i took the liberty of snooping around the internet and i have found this


with some tweeks to the weapon option plug in at the start of each mach this could be a possible option.
Bro this is not good idea and im sure some players will abuse it, Imagine there only 3 zms and u guys dont wanna lose the round and one of u guys will sacrifice to win so u go to the 3 zms and u get infect then it's win without even reaching the call area .. even this idea kills the fun of the game it's escape game not built to be like this .. this is my opinion and i respect you point of view
 
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put a level 10 restriction on it, so people can't make spam alts and abuse it, also make it VIP only. this will limit how many people will select it, if too many people become VIP increase the level

maybe level 30 for non vip and level 10 for VIP (not sure if you can balance that)

alternatively i'm not sure how it works with the maps and such, but perhaps similar to "plant the bomb" in CS one person could be randomly selected

similar to how the frost grenades are given top players during VIP time (they get auto equipped) you could have one person on the human side be given a suicide vest, this person dies, BIG boom.
 

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Bro,we want to keep the ze classic,so not many people has to suffer with fps drops etc,these ideas are for zombie pleague or zombie biohazard
I don't even know what those are dude.

i think having the option of a suicide vest would be an awesome edition.

not available during boss fights.
maximum potato mode.
also everytime i make a suggestion you say about FPS drop.
if weapons are a problem better remove all the guns bro
 

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I don't even know what those are dude.

i think having the option of a suicide vest would be an awesome edition.

not available during boss fights.
maximum potato mode.
also everytime i make a suggestion you say about FPS drop.
if weapons are a problem better remove all the guns bro
Bro he means about the explode when these vests get explode it will drop fps
 

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ill not talk about fps
knowing our players, the round will end in 10 sec, everyone will suicide and kill zombies for achievements or rank in gt.
it will fk the meaning of the game, zombie will be scared to be near humans or try to infect, knowing that he will die by this grenade.
thats not good for zombie escape mod
 

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ill not talk about fps
knowing our players, the round will end in 10 sec, everyone will suicide and kill zombies for achievements or rank in gt.
it will fk the meaning of the game, zombie will be scared to be near humans or try to infect, knowing that he will die by this grenade.
thats not good for zombie escape mod
which is already why I have suggested limitations or perhaps a way for only 1 person to be selected with it after the infection.
 

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Imagine how broken and pay to win it'd be with this suicide vest if it does manage to get in the game it'd only be for vip plus you're infected not dead (kind of)
 
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Imagine how broken and pay to win it'd be with this suicide vest if it does manage to get in the game it'd only be for vip plus you're infected not dead (kind of)
this is not what i've said

I have suggested having it available for both players, VIP & F2P but have the access levels different.

it also wouldn't be pay to win if the vest was also statted correctly.

personally when i suggested this, i was thinking of how cool it would be to simply go "boom" after a zms infects me, not as a game breaking end all mechanic.
normal zms get 15k
infections during the map get 8k
so have it do 4k damage

this does substancial damage to a zms and doesn't even outright kill the weakest one unless it hs already taken a lot of damage.
there is obviously a correct level of damage the vest should deal.
I was on a boat on one of the maps the other day and somehow i blocked it and it did 2k damage to me as a zms which was crazy, naturally I got out of the way!

so the question is.

if the idea of having it accessable at different levels for VIP & F2P
how can it be introduced, without causing spam deaths
and how to balance it.

I'll have a ponder on these and come up with something.
 

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Like @Claudio-vip said:
Bro,we want to keep the ze classic,so not many people has to suffer with fps drops etc,these ideas are for zombie pleague or zombie biohazard.
So, answer to your thread is quite simple.
NO. Punctuation mark. Everyone agreed that this is a classic server. That means no heavy modifications to it and it will never be any plugins like that in the future.
Just imagine an example : Everyone goes suicidal just to kill some zombies. That would be insane, so we don’t add things like that to the game.
Lock.
 

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Like @Claudio-vip said:

So, answer to your thread is quite simple.
NO. Punctuation mark. Everyone agreed that this is a classic server. That means no heavy modifications to it and it will never be any plugins like that in the future.
Just imagine an example : Everyone goes suicidal just to kill some zombies. That would be insane, so we don’t add things like that to the game.
Lock.
if this is meant to be classic server why have some of my other ideas been accepted and made as plug in?
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Just imagine an example : Everyone goes suicidal just to kill some zombies. That would be insane, so we don’t add things like that to the game.
Lock.
i already gave examples of how to balance this including damage
damage could easily be scaled at 200 * level + zms killed

stop stressing because the game CAN be better, this is why its a SUGGESTION

if the owners choose to politely say "thanks for the idea but we're not interested" they will say it

boss fights
stackable infections
zms killed
all that good stuff in game which carries between matches came from one of my posts.
maybe it won't happen, which is fair enough, but at least the owners have heard my suggestions on what I think would be cool in the game.

make it unlockable at level 10 or 15
you can't just select it, you have to unlock it somehow but completing achievements in game.
damage is calculated at 250 +zms killed (as a bonus) * level = BOOM
a single use unlock, meaning you have to complete the challange again.

what that challange is, i don't know but its the only way to make it fair.
similar to how getting 1000 infections will gain you a bunch of escape as a zms.

this way participation is rewarded and the spam abuse concern is dealt with.

thats the best i could come up with, this way its fair to all and damage is good but equally not crazy excessive to just kill a room full of zms


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using the pre-existing plugin's

my suggestion would be make it a weapon you can select off the menu after every 10 zms kills

this way the plug in for keeping track of player activity is not interfeared with.
you change the weapon plug in so that once 10 zms have been killed you can unlock a vest.

two choices for this

1) make it a weapon you can select (This way you can choose it like a normal weapon)
2) have a command you can type in similar to /get or /reward you could have
/vest
and an option come up like a map vote "would you like to use the vest?"
1. Yes
2. No

if you click yes, you automatically have it equipped
when your character gets infected he goes boom, it gets used.

seems pretty straight forward

in fact the second option doesn't even change anything regarding the base set up
you just redeem your reward for every 10 zms kills

which means you can claim it 5 times before your zms kills are reset and the game works as normal.

250 damage + zms killed (10/20/30/40/50) (max 300 damage) * level = BOOM

260* 1 = 260
300 * 50 = 15k (base zms are made with 16k) (this damage amount can be tweeked

base damage at 200 + zms killed bonus * level = slightly less damage formula

you redeem 1 vest per 10 zms killed as a single use item.
 
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I personally don't like this idea. My opinion is to let it how it is simple ze not like other shit ze servers (Extra guns) (coins to buy special weapons) (Escape coins) etc.
 
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I personally don't like this idea. My opinion is to let it how it is simple ze not like other shit ze servers (Extra guns) (coins to buy special weapons) (Escape coins) etc.
yeah, forget escape coins and stuff like that, but a vest isn't a gun.
there's already more weapons available at higher levels on this one, so i don't see why something a little different would do it any harm.
 
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maybe the vest can be used as a punishment by admin.

i'm not sure how plugin's work, but maybe a plugin can be used to equip a suicide vest automatically to speed hackers and then blow them up?

even if its not useable for players, it might be worth having it around for some reason.

just had a speed hacker in the game causing the game to crash.

at first there was no admin, but they got on there, saw it themselves and banned them.

would be good if there was a way to automatically stop speed hackers, with vest and boom to stop them from being dicks and ruining the game.

i don't know if that is do-able with a plug in, i don't know how they work, but food for thought guys.
 

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Interesting idea... but it is better to ze classic, how much but mods but the server gets heavy for those who have a weak PC, so it is better to stay as it is even.
 
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